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PostSubject: advice needed please    Mon 09 May 2011, 4:59 pm

on muzzle sizes for staffys,I read elsewhere that size12 baskerville fits staffies but that looks way too big & as im gonna have to order of the interwebs,i was wondering what sizes other people use?
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Mon 09 May 2011, 5:56 pm

Hi and welcome to the forum spinner smile

Re the muzzles - If you mean the beige coloured Baskerville ones we used a size 7 and 8 when we had to use them for a short while.

If you're dog has a big solid round gorgeous Staffy head you will probably need an 8. For a slightly smaller younger Staffy a 7 should be OK.

I also kept away form the size 10 " bull breed /rottie" style ones because they were too close their faces and looked very claustrophobic. The dogs hated them too when we tried them on.

Do you mind if I ask why you need to use them for yours - do they have issues between them at home or is it for wearing when they are out and about?

If you have any behaviour problems we have some great experienced advice available in Adams K999 section on the forum. Also have loads of Staffy owners who might have been through any problems you're having.

We are all happy to help if we can anytime spinner smile

p.s we love seeing pictures of your dogs too lol!


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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Mon 09 May 2011, 6:21 pm

Hi Sully, see your local ish to me. Do u ever take your dogs to Willingham Woods, or are u other side of Lincoln?
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Mon 09 May 2011, 7:30 pm

Have you a pets at home near you - they may allow you to try a few - we have always tried on harness etc xxx
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Mon 09 May 2011, 11:01 pm

Wids it is for out & about,Tye my youngest staffy was involved in what couldve been a fatal incident with another dog at the weekend & it would be safer to have him muzzeled in public.

Toni,hiya I know where willingham woods are but have never been.

Suziet-tried there this afternoon but they only had 2 sizes in the shop 5 & 12 apparently they are being discontinued as they are being redesigned,thats what they told me,so had to buy a fabric muzzel for now
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Tue 10 May 2011, 2:33 pm

Sorry to hear you've had such an awful experience. Is Tye aggressive normally or do you think it might have been a one off?

We've used the baskervilles for our two girls because they had a probem with each other they def worked out to be the best ones to use but we only used them as a temporary thing to stop them hurting each other until we got them back on track.

The muzzle will help in the short term but not forever - you might want to consider a behaviourist if it's a big problem.

Not sure if you've used them before so - sincerest apologies if you already know this - but it isn't just a case of sticking a muzzle on you need to make sure it's a good fit, that he is OK with it try it out at home first and also never leave him vunerable around other dogs with it on especially strangers.

There's some good articles on the internet on correct use etc too. spinner smile
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Tue 10 May 2011, 2:48 pm

He hasn't shown any aggression to any other dogs till now,although if we have to walk past any other dogs ,he will pull constantly to get to them.
I have done some reading up on the muzzles & have emailed some dog trainers in the area,keep fingers crossed I may be able to work through this wiithout having to consider rehoming
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Tue 10 May 2011, 3:11 pm

It's brilliant that you are prepared to do everything you can He's still young enough to be trained / managed out of this. After a fight it takes us humans much longer than it takes the dogs to get over it.

Honestly I totally recommend Adams K999 section on here - there's few others on there who have the same problems too and have a look at his website - there's some fantastic advice. He works with last chance dogs with "issues"

If you want to post up how he's behaving so Adam can get an idea of what's going it'd help too.

http://staffiezone.boardonly.com/f122-k999-specialist-behaviour-help-for-your-dog.
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Tue 10 May 2011, 6:24 pm

Liz thanks I will check it out,I have been told by a fair few people that it would be better to rehome Tye as keeping two males staffies is a big no no but I dont really feel that this is an option,who would take him? Most of my friends have dogs of their own already & the rescues are full to bursting with staffies & I couldnt just hand him over to anyone
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Tue 10 May 2011, 6:28 pm

2 males can live together, its not uncommon. Some can live happily together.

Claire, Suzie, and Maistaff on here all have 2 (+) male dogs.

Are your boys neutered?
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Tue 10 May 2011, 8:17 pm

First thing anyone says is "oh no can't have 2 boys / 2 girls".

Agree with Toni - there's several same sex owners on here that have gorgeous dogs who live together.

But also some get issues ( like I had )- is Tye aggressive to Moo at home? If not then it might be nerves not aggression when he's out and about?

It takes time to suss out what's happening but if you can identify what kicks him off you're halfway there because you can work on helping him deal with his problems.

Feel free to post up any questions or thoughts - it might be that someone spots a similiar action to their dogs behaviour.



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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Wed 11 May 2011, 9:17 am

yeah both are neutered,theres no aggression between them at home apart from the occasional falling out,although on monday evening when someone knocked at my door they kicked off with each other
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Wed 11 May 2011, 8:13 pm

Hi Honey

we have 2 both entire - and they do get along well - I would work on the issues for now - sometimes when Diesel barks Rocco wants to jump at him - but I notice the signs now and always tell him no if he gets that look where he raises his head and body goes stiff.

You just have to step up your game if that makes sense - I was far too soft when they were younger but as they grew up I realsied that the way I was wasn't going to help them live in harmony.

I would have thought if one was more aggressive you would have issues more then you are xx
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Wed 11 May 2011, 8:41 pm

thanks guys you have eased my mind somewhat on this... woot
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Wed 11 May 2011, 8:59 pm

Well done for trying to work through things, fingers crossed some of the trainers will get back to you and be able to give advice.

The two male thing shouldn't really be a problem as long as you know the dogs,
I currently have three males two of my own and one is a foster for staffie rescue, without any problems.

What kicked off the incident with the other dog at the weekend? Did your other dog try to get involved?
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Wed 11 May 2011, 9:18 pm

Hope you get it all sorted and you find the behaviourist helpful. Let us know how you get on x

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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Fri 13 May 2011, 8:03 am

ooh the trainer is comming today & im nervous,irrational I know but.....
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Fri 13 May 2011, 9:17 am

chill out its great you've got a behaviourist
think i'd record what they had to say,
as i'd forget what the'd said x
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Fri 13 May 2011, 1:03 pm

let us know what the trainer suggests and keep us up to date on how you all get on with the program.
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Fri 13 May 2011, 5:29 pm

Trainer rang to swap appointment times & I couldnt make it this afternoon cos of work,so he now comming monday morning
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Mon 16 May 2011, 5:12 pm

The trainer came today & I feel loads better,he brought one of his own dogs & we walked them together,pretty much side by side..no sign of aggression from Tye at all spinner smile
Discussed the type of food I am feeding them both & the leads that I am using,he let me try a halti lead(so soft) as opposed to the chain leads I use & just general training this like command words & taking the dogs out individually,he did mention clicker training & also maybe joining the others on the social walks they do
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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Mon 16 May 2011, 5:43 pm

great stuff, that must have given you a good confidence boost!

isn't it amazing how fast dogs can change their behaviour by simply changing your own behaviour and how you interact with them?

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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Mon 16 May 2011, 5:43 pm

Really pleased it was positive experience for you - that's always a great start spinner smile

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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Mon 16 May 2011, 7:34 pm

All sounds good - well done

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PostSubject: Re: advice needed please    Mon 16 May 2011, 7:44 pm

Ah that sounds great!

Wish they did social walks around here, thats what I need
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