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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Mon 23 Nov 2009, 2:55 pm

I cant say much there i was like that with my hubby at first lololol
Demi is just being a good mum and protecting her son
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Mon 23 Nov 2009, 3:06 pm

shes so funny with it lol bless her
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Mon 23 Nov 2009, 4:31 pm

Please try not to put human emotions on our dogs, my dogs are my babies and children, but they are dogs first. They think dog, the act dog, and no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't turn them into babies or children.

We don't know why dogs do something, what we do know is that dogs don't have a future or a past apart from if they have been abused or bad experience, dogs live in the present.

What seems like protecting us is usually protecting themselves, they don't know jealousy as we know it, they do want all the attention that is going because dogs don't do sharing, we have to teach them to share.

Don't let the pup think his willy is the milk bar open, a friend nearly had a put killed when that happened because she wasn't fast enough, since then the dog can't stand pups.
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Mon 23 Nov 2009, 4:36 pm

sorry mattie my fault , i was meaning sense's rather than emotional feelings as in scent .
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Mon 23 Nov 2009, 5:02 pm

Jo we all do it, I do it myself at times and have to give me a kick up the bum because there isn't anyone else to do it. ROFL
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Mon 23 Nov 2009, 5:45 pm

Mattie wrote:
Jo we all do it, I do it myself at times and have to give me a kick up the bum because there isn't anyone else to do it. ROFL


look girls and boys i printed this off so when mattie shouts at me i can say oh mattie you do it lolololol
only joking hun
I think we ll do it at some point if not most of the time my hubby is forever saying to me jo its a bloody dog and my answer is no she isnt she is my baby lol
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Mon 23 Nov 2009, 5:46 pm

Lol Jo i am the same with my two they are my babies and more often than not they get babied wrong i know but i dont mind it and they dont mind it.

Waiting to get shouted at now sucker for punishment hehe
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Mon 23 Nov 2009, 7:40 pm

i do see what you mean, when i did introduce them it was 4 a few seconds i wouldnt intentionally put the puppy at risk however i found the experience with tyne very good as when i first got him i wouldn't have dared do that so it does show he is slowly improving
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Tue 24 Nov 2009, 1:32 pm

There is no harm in thinking of them as our babies as long as we also remember they are dogs.

Kirstie, I know you were careful, but often I will add information in case others are reading this and not asked a question, the more information they get the better.
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Tue 24 Nov 2009, 3:31 pm

i must admit i was a little wary mind when i was doing this and ur right the more info available does help
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 4:06 pm

i have just had a nytmare with tyne. we had him on the field for his afternoon run there were no other dogs around and we were ryt at the bottom of the field away from any entrances so we let him off his lead, everythin was fine then a lad came on the field with rocky's son. tyne was great 2 start with then wen we called him 4 his lead he ignored us completly and ran to the dog. he started nippin it then had a ryt go at it. we ran as quick as we could to get him bearin in mind it was a rottie he was goin 4 2 get him im sorry to admit this and if u dont agree then im sorry but i smaked him with the lead b4 i put it on him. we've tried our best with him i dont know what to do next. we are at the end of our tether as we have other dogs to worry about. he was fightin with rocky yesterday and wen people come to the door he fights with demi. ive tried all the techniques i have been advised to. im ashamed to say it but im ready to give up its either rehome a problem dog or take him 2 vets which upsets me as i really deep down dont want to but i cant really place this on sum1 else. we r his second home and have had him 4 nearly 8 month i just dont wanna mess him up anymore
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 4:18 pm

first of all big hugs to you hun ,
I can't really help as i have never been in your situation Mattie is the best one with advice for this , and maybe other members who have been in the same situation ,
I really hope you can sort something out though for your sake as well as Tyne's ,
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 4:23 pm

so do i hun, its not his fault i no that, weve exercised him alot more kept him active with toys etc weve even tried bein sterner with our voices with him and thought we were makin progress and now wen we let demi n him in the garden he goes 4 her as she follows im just so messed up over it, weve had problem dogs b4 and broke thru well b4 8 month but with tyne we seem 2 go foreward 5 steps then back 12
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 4:41 pm

tyne will be going through teenage stage though hun aswell , where he will be testing you more and everything and anything else .

I really wish i could suggest something that may help you , I can imagine how you are feeling though as I would be the same , its like having an unruley teenager and not knowing which way to turn with them , I am sure someone will help you and give you some advice on how to deal with it , but remember you have to do what you feel is best for you and tyne
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 4:47 pm

i understand what ur sayin hun, i just feel like ive failed him in sum way i treat him as i do the others wen hes rong he gets told wen hes gud he gets praised the others dont act like this in any way and trust me weve had some problems with them but they were corrected with ease. surely it still cant be the home change, i just dont no how much more i can take or poor demi
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 4:50 pm

it could be the home change he is bound to be confused , do you know what he was and what he wasnt allowed get away with before you had him ?
you havent failed hun you are still trying and wanting to get him sorted so dont ever think that you have failed , you have done more for tyne that some people will do in a lifetime for their dogs .
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 5:06 pm

yeah we were told bits but not a great deal just that they smaked him wen he did wrong, i dont have to smack my other dogs so this was a strange thing 2 me, so we tried tapin his bum but as soon as our hands were raised he bared his teeth at us and growled nastily so we reverted to the newspaper and he raggled that thinkin it was play time n not wrong time so we use our voices like we do with demi he seemed to be takin notice and now he just seem pig ignorant and wont do a thing we ask apart from go 2 bed which is where he is now and will stay till i feel he has spent his punishment and then the fun will start again as soon as it's toilet time. i no he came from a home where he was the only 1 but surely after 8 month he shuld no the routine its his temper that scares me, ive never had a dog that behaves like this after so long in having him it scares me 2 be honest especially wen demi has had pups she doesnt need this on top,
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 5:15 pm

im hoping im gonna say this so i dont sound like im having a go hun or anything as im not honestley .
firstly his last home was wrong you should never smack a dog this wont work just encourage the aggression in my opinion and newspapers are a no no to . a dog lives for the now not the past or the future so if he is in a crate or in his bed as a punishment 10 minutes after you have put him there he will have forgotten what he has done anyway .
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 5:21 pm

Smacking him will just reinforce the behaviour and make him worse, what you need to do is go back to basics with recall training get a long line and start again. My eddi is nearly 11month old and he is a total teenager when it suits him.

If eddi doesnt listen and doesnt come when called i will go and fetch him no point screaming and shouting at him he just ignores you lol then i put him back on his lead he will then walk nicely with me for a couple hunderd metres, i then let him back off and he does exactly as i ask him. So he knows if he doesnt listen he goes on the lead and prefers not too lol.

But if you go back to basics with recall training and take very high level treats such as hot dog sausages cut up or the like.

I've found with eddi since hitting teenager we have had to go back to basics on a few things like wait, leave it etc. Another thing i've learnt is teach them to watch me so everytime something distracts him get him to watch me high level treat etc. As you know daisy hates puppies and since being attacked can be a little funny with other dogs, all i do when i see her body language change i tell her leave it, straight away she will look to me for the treat i also use a clicker which i find great.
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 5:26 pm

you could also use a dog whistle as it doesnt change its tone for recall .
Buffy is the adoloucent teenager and trust me there has been times when i could have happliy smacked her bum lolol
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 5:30 pm

he is in the crate with the door open hun hes not locked in there he himself can come out anytime he feels lol im not that cruel. i dont agree with the smackin thing either i have never had 2 do it with mine my voice works well enuf, i felt awful tappin him i wouldnt even say i did that but it was as soon as my hand showed the palm he went mad. to be honest the cuple who had him wen i rang i asked why they were sellin him and they just said that it was because baby no 4 was on the way and there werent room 4 him any more i said i may be interested n the next thing i no they were on the way to ours with him, so to make sure i had an idea what i was gettin in2 i had demi outside with me to meet him and the owner said mind i dont know what he'l be like as they aint socialised him. i thought i can deal with that but lookin back it seemed a quick deal, they came over with him, never asked why i was interested or anythin it certainly wasnt 4 breedin n i just hope the puppy doesnt get this behaviour from his dad thru the genes. wen we got him he was skinny aswell, but i just put this down to a growth spurt as i dont like thinkin bad of any1 the only change here is that we dont have children but im pleased as i wouldnt trust him near a toy 1 never mind a real 1 the way he is at the min, we've had this 4 about 6 month now we've tried n tried and i no many people will say its my own doing with him but our others get treat the same n they fine.

eddi n daisy, thanx hun but tyne just doesnt walk nicely at all hes always pulling so i put him in the sit and as soon as we start again hes off i feel like ive been to the gym after his walks, he just isnt listening to anything hun, even my hubby who he listened 2 more. as 4 ur eddi bein off the lead i bet he wasnt tryin to eat the other dog....... we literally ran after we shouted tyne come and he ignored us and he was placed on his lead, n im ashamed to say that b4 i put him on it i smacked him with it. i just feel ive gave my all and dont have anything else 2 give and my demi's wellbeing is a worry around him aswell. ive taken to lettin him out separate and also feedin him separate at this rate hes goin to be in solitary perminatley and thats not fair just to keep my others safe
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 5:38 pm

i just dont get why hes like this i no that the dogs r more headstrong than the bitches but we've ad no bother with her at all just she doesnt like jack russels as she was attacked by 1 wen she was little
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 5:39 pm

dont give up hun you,ve woked so hard with him think of him as a nauhty chaild and try using te tone of voice you would with a child it takes some doing to get the tone right mind but once you have it makes being able to be firm lot easier

also a thought that does work very well do you have or could you get hold of treadmill ? these are fab for dogs and can really help maintain the calm mentality its hardr work that out walking plus you can work on his aggression with other dogs we hes more calm and the negative energy has been taken out of him and he is in a calm state

i would as much as is possile not let him off the lead at all in public you could get long line to give him some freedom with but still maintan control over him (not a flexi lead though a proper training lead )


i know its frustrating and feels hard right now but please dont give in you have worke so hard with him

i would als get him castrated if he hasnt been yet this will help remove some of the hormones making it abit easier t work with him
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 5:45 pm

thanx hun but 2 be honest i was advised by mattie not 2 castrate yet untill this has been resolved a lil. we try to keep him on a lead as much as possible as im startin 2 look like a bodybuilder on my arms tryin 2 keep hold of him hes got a harness but that just seems 2 make him pull more ive tried a halti n he fights that. this experience has put me off taking on an older dog or even any dog from a previous background
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PostSubject: Re: behaviour problem help   Sun 06 Dec 2009, 5:47 pm

its not your doing hun or anything u are doing , its his past owners they dont seem to have done anything with him other than punish him .
dont ever blame yourself hun what ever you decide its not your fault or your doing , you have tried and you have even asked for help off others which to me makes you a dam good owner .


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