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PostSubject: Old wives' tale?   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 12:03 pm


Just wondering if anybody else has heard this before?

When my mate Jo took Molly (her gorgeous 9 week old border collie puppy) for her vaccinations, she got chatting to a older man who told her that he had trained border collies as working sheepdogs all his life. He then asked Jo if he could have a look at the roof of Molly's mouth!

He explained that the more black on the roof of a dog's mouth the cleverer the dog.

The roof of Molly's mouth is almost completely black, as is Bertie's, apart from one teeny stripe of pink... We think in Bertie's case it could be an indicator of Houdini-type talents - this is getting stupid now! Are dogs supposed to be able to escape from car harnesses? We definitely put it on the correct way round - although presumably not as tightly as it should have been. We were driving along, content in the knowledge that Bertie was securely clipped in, when I heard a strange noise coming from the back seat. I looked round (don't worry - Steve was driving) & saw Bertie just getting his second front leg through the front loop & then shimmying along until he could step out of the harness at the back. He finished the rest of the journey with a huge, smug smile on his big fat face! lol

The guy was adamant & insisted that in 40 years of training he has observed this consistently.

We are very aware that this, erm... theory comes under the heading of 'old wives' tale' but has anybody else ever heard this one?
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PostSubject: Re: Old wives' tale?   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 1:56 pm

I've never heard of the theory and although a totally different breed I have just checked Caesar and Toby's mouth and both are entirely pink, being a science teacher I'd say the evidence totally supports that mans theory as my pair aren't exactly gifted in the brains department!!! lol
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PostSubject: Re: Old wives' tale?   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 2:55 pm


Kirsty - perhaps your dogs are so, so clever that they are cunningly hiding it from you!? spinner smile

I am a tutor at 6th form college - mainly pastoral, but some psychology - & I suspect that the guy Jo talked to probably either (a) worked with a couple of clever, black mouthed dogs or (b) somebody told him this theory at some point. He then had higher expectations of dogs with black roofed mouths & put more effort in to their training - classic self-fulfilling prophecy?

Not sure if Bertie is truly intelligent - he certainly has a talent for escapology & breaking & entering (& stealing food)! lol

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PostSubject: Re: Old wives' tale?   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 4:25 pm

Yes I have heard this before x
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PostSubject: Re: Old wives' tale?   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 4:58 pm

Not heard of it before but before I even check Ruby and Elsdon's mouths, I'm sure they are all pink lol
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PostSubject: Re: Old wives' tale?   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 5:37 pm

There might be some truth in this but I think not in the roof of the mouth.

The Black Mouth Cur is considered to be a highly intelligent dog preferred for years above other breeds even different coloured curs for hunting, cattle work etc and rescue. A really good all round working dog.

Maybe this is where the tale comes from ?
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PostSubject: Re: Old wives' tale?   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 7:37 pm

I'm the same as Jan, I'm sure without checking that my twos are pink too! Lol

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PostSubject: Re: Old wives' tale?   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 7:48 pm

Yep sounds like an old wives tale.

I did check mine though.

Both boys (staffies) have almost all black upper mouths.
Indie (collie) is mostly black
Rogue (collie) is all pink.

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PostSubject: Re: Old wives' tale?   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 8:08 pm

Enzo's is pink lol

But I thinks he's quite clever....
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PostSubject: Re: Old wives' tale?   Mon 13 Aug 2012, 10:01 pm

Reubens is all black with a few pinky bits near his teeth

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