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PostSubject: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 21 Jan 2014, 9:44 am

Was walking my daughter to school this morning with wiley , and we met a mini shnauser (spelling) x yorkie , we meet him neally every morning on the pavement i know the lady she's realy nice, he came forward to say hello to wiley and wiley did the same , then he snaped and bit wiley on the side of the face  

At first the dog used to be ok and she was a nervous wreck when she first met wiley as she thought wiley may attack her dog , not cause hes a staffie shes just terrified of dogs goin near this dog , but shes ok now with wiley as she knows he's ok , but for the last few weeks hes been very unpredictable when meeting wiley . when she first got him he was a sod he wasnt a puppy either i think he had nipped one of the kids in his previous home so they got rid , anyway she went to training with him as he used to bark at every dog and everything and after training he was brilliant , but now he seems to be goin back to his old ways ? he barks at ppl on bikes , and like i say getting nasty with other dogs , he was ready for having a scrap with wiley , but i cant help but think its her fault ? she wont socailaise him , she wont go on parks for ther fear the dog will get attacked and she has never let him off lead , and like i said shes scared of other dogs coming near , shes told me that it scares her to death , at least shes been responsable but i think her worriedness is rubbing off on the dog ? she told me she thought i was really brave letting wiley off etc , i wasnt at first but you get to know your dog i know that wiley is 99% safe , but i cant say the same if something went for him so where small dogs are concerned hes always on a lead , when he snapped at wiley she just said dont do that alfie in like a right feeble voice , i can see trouble coming with that dog unless she goes back to training with him

it just annoys me tho cause if wiley had attacked back i bet it would of been allover the papers that staffie attacks small dog

Then when we got on the park wiley had to be kept on a lead as there was a jack russel running loose thats known for been a fighter , well i werent having that provoking wiley and wiley having a go

so i went to another park so i could give him some off lead and that was full of small loose yappers so i came home LOL so not a good dog walking morning
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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 21 Jan 2014, 1:38 pm

Being a small dog owner I dont agree with you 100% on that but I do think it goes on more with smaller dogs than bigger dogs.
 
I think when people have smaller dogs they dont invest as much time training them, I dont know if it is because they are easier to handle, i.e lead walking a pulling dog would differ from walking a chihuaha to a GSD for example.
 
My sister owns a JRT and she pampered it and spoiled it and it is a little git now.  It does not walk well on a lead, hates children and will snap and bite at you even after approcahing you for attention.  In my opinion this is how she has brought it up rather than the fact it is a small dog.  She also has a cairn x whippet who is a saint in comparison but she was my sisters first dog and she did all the right things with her.
 
I have noticed an increase in smaller dogs, especially Chi's in my area so maybe if there are more little dogs you will see an increased number of problem dogs purely on the average of number of smaller dogs versus larger dogs?  I must admit I dont see many small problematic dogs near me but there are a couple of JRT's that live near the fields that do nothing but bark at every dog on the field as their garden backs out onto the field.  I do wish they would put something over the gate so they cannot create a fuss as other dogs may go over and will have a rucus through the gate.
 
Not long ago we we were walking in the park with my friend and his two staffies and his boy is unpredicatable.  There was an off lead miniature yorkie approaching us so I went ahead of him with Reuben to intercept them two meeting.  The owner of the Yorkie came charging up behind it and grabbed it just as it was lunging for Reuben which took us completely by suprise and apparently it was very DA. I dont think it should be off lead in a park if that is the case but I suspect the owner had the mindset that it was a little dog so cant do much harm.

I do think people are more aware of the strength of larger dogs so are a little more cautious

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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 21 Jan 2014, 3:17 pm

My daughters JRT sounds just like your sisters LOL hes a lovely cute little thing, but god hes naughty , and my daughter has pampered him from been born as she lived with the ppl that bred him so shes basicly had him in her arms like a baby most of his life , and he barks at bigger dogs than him , she says hes not snapy but i think he is and he went for my youngest daughter when he was here once cause she startled him , ok anydog could do that but i just find him abit of a nuisance like a naughty toddler LOL but tasha wont tell him off

there is a fair few small dogs here but i wouldnt say it out weights the larger dogs , probbely on a par tbh , there is one shizu thats fantastic , she's lovely and very sociable, but this one today used to be ok after training classes so i dunno why he's got so gumpy , tasha my daughter always says junior her JR is telling ppl hes small and to beware LOL

altho hes a terror if i was to own a small dog out of all of them it would attualy be a JR , but i do think there a handful infact most JR i have met are trouble in one way or another LOL

there's two yorkies that bark like mad when i have met them on the park , but im thinking is it cause there small and there warning the bigger dogs away ? thats my daughters theory over her own anyway

we have a dog in our street that barks like mad behind a metal gate just like them jr's your onabout accept its a larger dog , i had only had wiley a few days when he set to because it went for him behind this gate LOL for some reason thats when wiley wil have ago when its behind a gate
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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 21 Jan 2014, 3:38 pm

here' ssome pics of my daugheters JR you cant  help but love him but god he needs to behave LOL he was a swine when he visited here , tramepling all over the furniture , on the back of the sofa , jumpes on my window sill and neally brought my blinds down chewing stuff if you werent watching him , taking him walks was embarrasing , he walks ok on the lead its just the barking at everything








oh and another thing his moulting was unreal , cheack this black carpet out hes sat on



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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 21 Jan 2014, 6:55 pm

He is very cute and I do love the cheekiness of the JRT

My dad had a JRT which was given to him as a present on the birth of my sister. She was brilliant, I could not fault her in any way at all and she was very protective of my two younger sisters. If my dad ever dared raise a hand to my sisters (we were smacked as children) she would go for him.
She was a very good house dog and evens saw off burglars. Someone broke in via the kitchen windows whilst we were out and we know they made it to the bottom of the stairs and got no further, I suspect because she then made an appearance. The back gardens was littered with stuff that they had obviously dropped in their haste to escape. I loved that little girl and she was what instilled my affection for JRT

I do think that as Staffie owners we are more aware of ensuring our dogs behave and will err on the side of caution if we are not sure. There is no doubt Staffies can inflict a lot of damage if they have a set to so I think we always have that in the back of our minds, prevention is always better in my mind.

Just a thought, if you had a smaller dog would you still be hesitant about letting it off the lead etc?

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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 21 Jan 2014, 7:07 pm

That one of tasha's bit her boyfreind's ankle LOL he thought he was a burgular coming in in the middle of night LOL

Yes i think i would be the same with a small dog as i am with wiley as i was very unsure with wiley at first because he is a staffie and i was quite nervous of just how he was goin to be with other dogs , now im pretty confident that hes ok i have him off lead alot , only with very strange dogs and smal dogs hes kept on a lead now but thats like you say i know the damage he could do , if i had had him from a puppy i would probbely be more confident at letting him off with smaller dogs , but cause i havenmt im wary of what he may do , i think i have this worry that he may mistake them for a cat , but i think im been silly there as his reactions to cats are completly different to small dogs

With a smaller dog i think i would be the same but in a slightly different way , would want to make sure that all the bigger dogs were ok before i let it off kinda thing, tasha lets her's off but she did encounter a large dog goin for him so she picked him up ,
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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 04 Feb 2014, 9:33 am

What could be causing this little dog to be so nasty ? we have met it twice now since he bit wiley and hes proper goin off on one really showing his teeth and wanting to fight wiley , wiley just ignores him now, infact wiley whimpered yesterday when he barked and growled at him LOL

What i dont understand is for the past 5 months i see this lady and this dog neally every day , its only on the pavement , sometimes i have walked along with her if were walking the same way and the dogs have been fine , really good with each other , and now this little one has just turned , the lady said this morning i dont think he means anything i think hes just letting wiley no he's here , i honestly dont think that as wiley is completly ignoring it now , like before wiley would pull to say hello and everything was fine , but i could understand it growing if it felt threatenedby that , but now wiley doesnt even look at it, he kinda stands head on facing the way were goin and she will be like at the side of me with it giving it rock all lol
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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 04 Feb 2014, 7:48 pm

Sounds to me like Wiley is avoiding this dog, and for good reasons by the sound of it. Is the dog the same with all dogs?

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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 04 Feb 2014, 7:52 pm

i really really dont know what hes like with other dogs as she tries to avoid most dogs and doesnt go anywhere near the parks  as shes scared of something attacking him , i just cant understand why all of a sudden after months h'es turned like this ? cause he was fine with wiley and she had kinda relaxed aswell , as when she first met wiley she was scared to death i think that he would eat her dog LOL if i see her tommorow i will ask her what hes like with other dogs , i know he barks at passing cyclists
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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 04 Feb 2014, 7:56 pm

If she avoids all dogs how will he ever learn how to socialise? How old is he?

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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Tue 04 Feb 2014, 8:13 pm

she did tell me and ive forgotten at a guess im goin to say about 3 , she rescued him cause he was grumpy with a friends kids so she took him on when her freind wanted rid , he was a little swine when she got him but she went to training with him and he was fantastic , shes not been to training tho for ages she stopped before i got wiley , i knew her before i got wiley as walk past her neally everyday taking the kids to school , she litrally walks round the block on the pavement with him then home i have asked her to come to the parks but she says oh no i darent , shes really paranoid , more para than i was when i first got wiley , mine seems to of subsided now i was more worried of my own dog tbh as i didnt no how he would be
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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Wed 05 Feb 2014, 9:38 am

I spoke to the lady this morning and hes 2 , tbh before i even got close she said god im stressed out with him , he was kicking off at wiley again , he does kick off at other dogs but like i said she wont see that many just goin round the block , but she also said hes kicking off at little kids walking past to school , shes having to say to them dont be scared he wont bite you , as she said they look terrified i felt really sorry for her , she then goes onto to say i dont think he would bite , i havent the heart to tell her he bit and drew blood on wiley , i just said he did have ago at wiley tho so maybe he would attack , she doesnt know what to do , i suggested back to training but she says she cant really afford it , so she said she might go and get that spray that stops them barking as she used that before thats what the trainer told her to use when he was at training
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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Wed 05 Feb 2014, 5:55 pm

Oooh Im really not a fan of things like that at all. She really does need to take him back to training and learn how to deal with it in a positive way although personally i would recommend another training class if thats what they suggest

A simple start may be using a distraction. If she is approaching another dog as the dog gets nearer she can distract him with a nice treat and after the dog or child has passed then loads of praise and give him the treat. I would suggest a nice different treat that means something for the work he does

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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Wed 05 Feb 2014, 6:23 pm

change of dog here but there's a young alsation that goes on our park with a youngish lad and he has one of them sprays and i cannot understand why ? its a weird situation as its only a young dog and it jumps and lunges on the end of the lead when it see's other dogs , i have said to my hubby many a time why does he keep that dog away from other dogs , its almost like he doesnt want to soclialise it , it could be that its aggresive i dont know as he never speaks , but it seems a bit young to be pulling it away like that as to me the dog just looks curious , but the last few times we have seen him he keeps spraying it , surly thats goin to make matters worse if it s just curious , but this lady did say the spray worked a treat last time on her dog

i will suggest your ideas to this lady as i dont have a clue what to do really as never been in this situation and hope im not ever in this situation , but i do think she needs to socialaise him more , but she wont , maybe im just socialise mad with having a staffie LOL as i want him to meet as many dogs as possible and have lots of good experiences
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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Sun 16 Feb 2014, 8:03 pm

I don't agree with the spraying, you only suppress the action rather than retrain using positive methods

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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Sun 16 Feb 2014, 10:24 pm

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I don't agree with the spraying, you only suppress the action rather than retrain using positive methods

and thats probbely whats happened here as this dog was like this when she got him , shes used sprayed and it worked but the problem has now come back
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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Wed 12 Mar 2014, 9:28 am

Spoke to the lady with the said dog above this morning , i had been avoiding her as didnt want wiley upsetting but managed to bump into her this morning so i asked how he had been and she was in bits , she's rang the local shelter to take him shes had enough he's bit her youngest son . hes not young young i think hes at highschool and him and his brother were arguing and hes nipped the back of his leg , she said hes just been a nightmare , barking and showing aggresion to everything . but when she rang the shelter i think they talked her round and said that if shes nervious which she is , shes very nervous that will be goin onto the dog etc , she said she loves him to bits but cant cope , so shes agreed to keep him for now , but there's another lady that walks her kids to school now this is a disaster waiting to happen this , this lady has said she will take him if her dog gets along with him , her dog you never see as she rarly walks it cause its such a nightmare its another little thing that yaps at everything , its also male , the said dog that wants rehoming is male and this lady has younger children , i showed my disaprovel i said i wouldnt put two males together like that and if its nipped your lad then whats it goin to be like with a smaller child , it was rehomed to this lady in the first place cause it had gone for the kids
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PostSubject: Re: why are small dogs so grumpy    Wed 12 Mar 2014, 12:50 pm

Disaster waiting to happen.

The dog should go to experienced owners who do not have young children

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