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PostSubject: CRATE TRAINING.    Sat 24 Jul 2010, 3:59 pm

Since been given some fantastic advice on here i have baught stella a crate. I got her a size L and shes loving it. I have baught chicken coupe bowls that fix onto the cage so she cant spill her water or food ect. I did used to feed stella at 9 am and leave her food all day for her to go back to when she wants it because it was easier for me because i also had my son to make meals for and i never wanted to leave her hungry. Since i got the crate i have changed all of this. I now feed stella one puppy tin of mean with a mixer a day but i feed her one meal at 9am, 1pm, 5.30pm. I walk stella at 7pm and she does a poo ect. I put stella into her crate at about 10pm for the night when i come down in the morning for the last 3 mornings there has been poo every where. Shes pooing on her blanket then folding it over on its self and lying on the otherside or just rolling around in it. So the advice i need is do i change her feeding to say 9am and 3pm and then not after that? I dont want her to go hungry so im abit unsure. Stella wont go in the crate either of her own accord. Iv been playing with toys near it and just throwing them in she goes to get them and comes out again. Its full of her cent because there her blankets in there. If i hafto leave stella to go out witch isnt really verry often id say twice a week no longer than 4 hours. i give her a chewy. If i go to bed because its allot longer im giving her a pigs ear as well her her usual toys to keep her happy. For the first night she was crying for a few mins and went to sleep but i want stella to go in there to go to sleep in the day if shes tired ect but she just lies on the floor. Its important to me and my fammily because my son will then learn when shes in there you leave her allone because its her space. The same when my friends children come round but she doesnt she lies on the floor or on the couch. how do i teach her its her space? if shes asleep i carry her through and put her in there, all her toys are picked up from around the house and put in there throughout the day. Its not secluded from the rest of the house its in the dining room. and she does have all her blankeys. Its deffo big enaugh for her. Im feeding her in it. her water is allways in there??????
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sat 24 Jul 2010, 4:20 pm

put her some nice treats in there and a nice juicy bone she will soon learn that the crate holds nice goodies and she can be left alone

are you keeping her now then ???
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sat 24 Jul 2010, 5:06 pm

The training needs to be done gradually. Put her bed and toys in there and carry on feeding her in there as well so everything about it is nice.
During the day leave the cage door open so she can come and go as she pleases.
As it is the largest one you may want to consider sectioning part of it off at night time so it is smaller, it may help with the toilet issues.
With my cage I put a large dark thrown over it. A night time I covered the cage completely so it was dark and he knew it was bed time. During the day I folded the blanket back to that it covered the sides and back only. Again this made the area a lot more cosy.
I would stop giving her the treats at night and you may have a few noisy nights until she settles but she needs to know that bed time is bed time. I would also be careful about what treats you leave her with when you are leaving the house, my two tend to try and swallow large pieces of rawhide and have on occasion got them stuck in their throats so I only give them biscuits when I leave.
As for her food I think 5.30pm sounds OK, you could try bringing it back half an hour and see how you get on.
Let us know how you get on x
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sat 24 Jul 2010, 8:10 pm

i hadto use a new bed for her because she destroyed her old one but iv put her nice toys in there and her yummy bones. I am feeding her in there but today shes not touched anny food at all so im not sure weather to leave her some over night?. My husband really doesnt want me to keep her because shes bitten our fammily rabbit now, as you know she had nipping issues annyways. Hes just verry worried that when shes bigger mabee she will do it to our son. I personally think the mouthing is allot better since were saying NO in a nasty voice and if she does it again she goes in the kitchen for 5 mins. and so on. Iv baught a harness to its easier to get on beecause of the biting but shes snapping so im giving her big fusses before and after. I am seeing improvement but obviously its a little worrying when we have a baby even though never left alone together. i have left the cage door open all day and shes not even interested in it. its the 3rd night now and she just doenst take an interest i throw a chew in and she brings it out. i put her to bed and she sits there i come down in the morning shes sitting in the same way wating for me.also she likes to roll around in her poo.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 7:57 am

Its over excitement thats all. Socialise her with the rabbit now before it gets any worse.

Are u keeping her?
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 9:33 am

iv contacted rescues they wont help me, Im not sure what to do. Some how stella got out of her cage and destroyed my dining room shes ripped all of the carpet up. shes chewd all the door frames all the doors. All the clothes that were in the ironing basket are in little bits all over my floor. My husband has gone mad its going to cost us a fortune to fix all of this. Its not like she didnt have anny toys because she did. He really wants me to rehome her but i cant sell her because i dont want her to go to an idiot. but no rehomeing centers will help me, shes also bitten my little boys finers today shes jumped up at his walker and nipped them so he started screamin. really unhappy.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 10:23 am

Can I be honest with you?

I know it will break your heart but it sounds to me like the best thing for Stella would to be rehomed. When she is nipping she is not being nasty, when she bit the rabbit she was not trying to kill it, she is excited and interested but does not know how to interact. She is purely being a puppy, she is still a baby and needs to learn right from wrong.

Unless and your hubby are 100% together on keeping her and working through the issues then I cannot see it working and it does not sound like your husband wants to work through the issues. If you are not together on it then it could cause arguments between you and I am sure that is the last thing you want.

Have you contacted Barbara Green at SBT Rescue? She will help you find owners whilst you keep Stella at home. She will vet them for you so you know that she will go to a good home.

I know you have been trying so hard but I think you need to decide one way or another so she can be rehomed at a young age and the new owners can work on her issues

If you want Barbara's details click on the contact link at the bottom of the forum and we will pass them over to you x
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 11:29 am

If I was closer to you Id of taken this girl if you wanted that. All she needs is some patience.

Did u actually buy her like u said in your rehoming thread, or did u find her at the dump?

Whose the other dog in your picture?
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 11:55 am

Tasha in a very calm way and with no comeback on you do you want Staffiezone to help you find a rescue that will take the puppy for you?

We can't promise anything but we can do some research if you want us to, but you have to have made the firm decision that you want to part with the dog, which to be honest sounds like the best thing for you all at the moment.

If you don't want to put your answer on the forum use the 'contact' button at the bottom of the forum and we will help you as best we can.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 12:59 pm

I did pay for stella yes. I paid £300 for her with no papers because i baught her on a pet basis i didnt want to breed her. The place i got her from was a dump. I would really like some help on finding stella a home yes. I have been trying with her and so has my husband but after what shes done to the house this morning its the last straw for him especially because its army property not ours. I have spoken to the northern staffy rescue who agreed to take stella and rehome her but i hadto get her to cumbria. obviously i cant do that. i dont drive and its way to far for me to travel. I have advertised stella on pre loved but as you can immagine im verry caucious of the kind of person she goes to. the dog in her photo is rocky next doors staff. shes loves him to bits. when she cant see him she goes to the toilet on my sofa in protest.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 1:01 pm

I do need a home for stella ASAP though because my husband thinks im choosing the dog over him and my son, with is kind of true i do side with the dog. so i would be really appreitive of anny help.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 1:15 pm

I hope you find a home for her soon. Such a shame that she is going to a 3rd home at a young age,. puppies are a lot of work, they are bound to damage things, how did she get out of her cage? I'm assuming it wasn't closed properly or sis dhe fight her way out?
She obviously needs a lot of time and patience, something which it sounds like your husband hasn't got for her. Have you considered getting her spayed before you put her on preloved?
Also, this is not my business butcCould you also ask your neighbour why their stafford is so overweight? If its not a medical issue and they are just overfeeding or under exercising then they really need to do something about it.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 1:22 pm

Hiya i didnt realise there dog was overweight. There dog is spoiled he only eats chicken and liver. He gets new toys every day. Hes never left alone. If you dont fuss him he turnes his nose right up at you. hes a brat but lovley. Stella isnt really going to a 3rd home i got her of a verry bad breeder. The vet has told me that she may be they way she is because she left her mum to early in thoose vital stages of her life. She did just fight her way out because it was closed properly i always make sure. I have the patience with her but my husband doesnt your right he just gets worried because when i say no to her she jumps up and snapps at me. hes just verry protective. hes never had a dog before. plus he hasto put a new carpet down, new door frames new everything in our dining room. so stella has now destroyed our house really.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 1:37 pm

maybe its just a bad picture but he looks to be overweight to me.
How old is stella now? it is likely that she missed out on socialising skills if taken from her mum too soon, how old is next doors dog? He will probably be teaching her boundaries and I would encourage they spend time together untill she is rehomed. If he is a well balanced dog he can teach her more in a week than a human can in a year.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Sun 25 Jul 2010, 1:48 pm

Rocky is 7 stella about 4 months old. When i got stella i was told by the breeder she was 8 weeks. when i took her to the vet to see about jabs ect they told me she was about 5 weeks, Stella bullies rocky. She jumps all over him, he shows his teeth and growles at her it makes her worse. Then hell snap at her and she snapps back and stalks him so i keep them appart now because shes bitten his ears and paws I take her out with other dogs though and she bullies them too. she pulls on my friends collys tail. its verry funny but it hurts the other dog.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Mon 26 Jul 2010, 10:42 am

Hi Tasha

We will take Stella and have a fosterer for her to go to. They are based in Chelmsford, Essex. If you seriously want to rehome her then we need to get her on a transport run from her location in Chester to South Mimms and onto Chelmsford. We can put out an appeal to get this transport run sorted and I'm sure this forum can try for transport volunteers too. Please confirm that this is what you want do to and if so e-mail your contact details to sharon@rescueremedies.co.uk.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Mon 26 Jul 2010, 3:12 pm

Tasha this is a fantastic offer and Stella will be well looked after these places do not come about very often so quickly, so please get in touch.

Transport is being arranged also for you which is brilliant.

I have sent you an email as well xxx

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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Mon 26 Jul 2010, 3:27 pm

What a fantastic opportunity for Stella. Rescue places are so very few and far between.

Tasha - I admire you for being so brave and honest about trying to do the best thing for Stella.

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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Mon 26 Jul 2010, 5:40 pm

Cant agree more Tasha, you are being very brave and it is the right decision for Stella.
Sharon will take very good care of Stella and will ensure that she has a great home
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Mon 26 Jul 2010, 7:50 pm

wow thats fantastic stella please take this offer up hun :)) its a wonderful chance for stella
i know its going to be hard but having read this thread from the start and i totally agree it would be for the best as your stressing because your oh doesnt want her this wont help at all you tried really hard hun so dont feel bad if you were closer to me i would have loved her but this rescue will find her a forever home and deal with any issues she has to :)))

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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Mon 26 Jul 2010, 7:59 pm

PS Stella will be spayed when she is old enough so she will never become a puppy machine and therefore she will be able to live out her life as a much loved pet. It will be a condition of her homing. We will also worm, flea, vaccinate and microchip (if that hasn't been done already) and she will have our "back-up for life" which means that if the new home fails for whatever reason we will take her back and find another for her. We also have a "no-kill" policy so she will be safe with us until she is homed.
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Mon 26 Jul 2010, 8:04 pm

thats fantastic Sharon so easy for furbabies fall into the wrong hands and have no back up xx
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Mon 26 Jul 2010, 9:33 pm

This is wonderfull. Im so pleased i have had a call about buying stella but i would prefer to do it this way. I dont drive so i cant get stella to you myself. Im really sad that she is going its broken my heat so much that me and my husband are on the rocks. This dog means the world to me. How soon could she be rehomed?
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Mon 26 Jul 2010, 9:35 pm

I really feel for you Tasha but you are doing the right thing. I am sure you and hubby will sort things out once everything has settled down.
We will still be here if you need to chat
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PostSubject: Re: CRATE TRAINING.    Mon 26 Jul 2010, 9:35 pm

Tasha look in your emails and contact me that way
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