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Wendy
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PostSubject: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 1:05 pm


Hi guys,

Wondered if anyone has ever used DAP with their dogs ???

Has many of you will know, we moved back in May to a new build house due to long term neighbourhood harrassment, we were physically and mentally attacked, most of all the house was targeted, we had footballs kicked at the doors and windows, we had glass bottles thrown through the windows, we had naked flames put through the letterbox, this went on for 5 years on and off.

Well Poppy as developed behavioural problems since, the noise from the harrassment in the old house would make her chew through doors and door frames to try to escape. I had hoped things would be different now we have moved away from the area but Poppy is still a bag of nerves if she hears any type of banging, the children from this small complex of 7 houses and 2 flats play out in the car parking area with their footballs, they also play with bangers ( not firework type ones ), if Poppy as much as hears a ball hitting the floor she goes mental yet alone the bangers, I was out in the kitchen only the other day doing the washing up, lounge door was shut, Bex was sat out in my garden, french doors were open so dogs had run of the lounge and garden, all of a sudden I heard a loud scrapping type of noise so I came into the lounge to find Poppy chewing the door frame, she'd heard the kids outside with their balls, luckily I caught her in time so she had'nt done too much damage. The new house is on the main road but the lounge is at the back of the house and with the lounge door shut you don't normally notice the noise of the road, theres days when we're be sat in the lounge with the french doors open and Poppy will lay on the floor and her whole body violently shakes, to be honest I'm at my wit's end, the thought of fireworks later in the year fill me with dread as thats another thing that does set her off, when she goes in a panic she is sooo hard to control. Poppy's crate is always in the lounge and always kept open, if she felt fearful she did start opening the door with her paw and going and laying in there for a while but she don't seem to do that anymore.

Yesterday I had to pop over to the vets to enquire about Ollie's medication so I did ask them if they could suggest something to help, apparently one of their veterinary nurses specialises with behaviour issues but first of all they have suggested trying DAP that releases pheromones similar to what a nursing bitch releases, has anyone ever tried using DAP ??? Its available as a plug in diffuser, a spray or as a collar - not sure which would be best.

If I have to enlist the help of a behaviourist with Poppy does pet insurance normally cover behaviour issues ??? Poppy was insured as of May.

Any other suggestions anyone may have please feel free to mention as I will happily give anything a try, I know this is probably my fault for not dealing with the problem sooner but when you experience anti social behaviour you feel sooo low and I was obviously not thinking straight x
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PostSubject: Re: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 5:28 pm

thats awful wendy
poor poppy hope you find some relief for her.
sorry i dont know any-thing that will help x
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PostSubject: Re: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 6:29 pm

Please dont feel bad about it Wendy, it was a difficult time for you all and none of us think straight at the time. To be honest there may not have been anything you could have done at the time so try not to dwell on it and look at how you can hopefully move forward.

I used DAP diffuser for seperation anxiety for Chloe but it did not work, I think we tried it for about 3 months as it takes a while for it to take effect. That said each dog is different so it may work for Poppy. Maybe the collar would be better for her? My house is all open plan downstairs and I did wonder if the expanse was too big for it to work (I dont live in a mansion lol but the living room, all, stairs and dining room are all open).

My insurance pays up to £250 for behavioural problems and I am with M&S

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PostSubject: Re: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 6:33 pm

I didn't know what hard time you had all been through. How awful for you all. group hug

I can't offer any advice as I had never heard of DAP till I read about it online a few months ago. Could be worth a try though. Hope it helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 8:04 pm


Thanks guys.

I also thought more on the DAP collar Jo, thinking if she has it on then she'll constantly smell whatever it is in them, the vets did say that it normally takes time for it to kick in but kinda expect that, as she is constantly nervous I think it would be a long term thing. No idea of what sort of prices these DAP things are but if they work it will be worth it as replacing doors and frames gets expensive and I'm sure the housing association will not be happy.

Ollie gets a little nervous with fireworks etc but if we comfort him and just let him know we're there he stays calm.

I'm with More Than for Poppy's pet insurance, I had to ring round as a lot of companies that were quoting less were putting a lot of exclusions on due to the health problems we had last year, her policy costs me £24 a month but she as lifetime cover and is insured for everything, the only exclusion on the policy is the Glaucoma and Eye Tumour in her right eye last year but as they have already said as the whole eye was removed she should'nt have any problems but I will have to check my policy or even give them a call to check if shes entitled to any allowance for behavioural issues.
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PostSubject: Re: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 10:06 pm

Let us know how you get on.

If I recall each diffuser cost about £17, no idea on the collars.

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PostSubject: Re: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Thu 05 Aug 2010, 10:26 pm

Ive never had to use one but i happened to see them on Ebay earlier.
How strange lol
ive found u a link to see if it may be of use to you hun

DAP diffuser

They sell the diffusers and the collars.
Hope it works for you if u try this method as ive known of a dog with anxiety like this before and know how stressful and upsetting it can be for the owners.
Good Luck x

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PostSubject: Re: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Fri 06 Aug 2010, 7:50 am

We've never used it before, but ordered the spray and diffuser from Petplanet and should arrive today - we've got it to take on hols. We read that the collars have to be on quite tight as it only works when it's in contact with their skin and we don't put our collars on tight so figured that we could spray their normal collars.

Petplanet has a sale on DAP products at the moment, so most things work out cheaper than the ebay link above (and much, much cheaper than pets at home!)
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PostSubject: Re: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Fri 06 Aug 2010, 1:09 pm

Hope this works for you. I have a cd somewhere at home that is supposed to de-sensitise to loud noises like these, we got it when Ruby was a pup, I'll see if I can find it and let you know. Who knows it may help?
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PostSubject: Re: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Fri 06 Aug 2010, 2:55 pm

We used the DAP collars on the girls when they were not getting on.

To be honest I do actually think they had begun to work but I was very unhappy about the stuff they were made of because it was very rigid so we took them off.

The diffusers didn't seem to do any good at first but they may have kicked in after a few weeks ( when they were nearly running out!!)

Have used the Feliway Spray for the cats and it did seem to calm them a bit.
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PostSubject: Re: Poppy's Behaviour and DAP   Fri 06 Aug 2010, 9:23 pm

Sorry have had a look and can't find it. I got it in her puppy pack from the Vets when she had her first jab so I'm presuming you might be able to get it on the internet?
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