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PostSubject: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 7:47 am

I know it is too soon to panic but we can't get Florence to settle without us at night.

She won't go in the crate, in fact she doesn't want to be left alone at night at all. She has to sleep downstairs at night with the other dogs. Ruby and Daisy are in their crate and George is just on dog bed. We did put another crate up but she won't go in it not even for food.

She cried and howled last night, in the end my husband had to sleep downstairs.

Please advise me and my sleep deprived brain of what to do next.

(the dogs don't come up stairs at night as we have a cat)
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:00 am

how old is florence ?
give her hot water bottle, not too hot
and a ticking clock
try to make the crate a good place for her to go into
during the day with putting treats in it
is she in the same room as the other dogs ?
she'll soon learn , it just doesn't feel like it because your tired
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:02 am

She's 2-3 yrs old, have just feed her breakfast just inside the door and she's eating that nicely.

I just panic (mainly about the neighbours who were banging on the walls last night).

I do have a week before she needs to go in the crate hopefully while I'm at work.
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:07 am

try not to turn it into an issue and don't panic
put her crate as far away from your neighbours wall as possible
but put your other dogs in there crates with her
so she knows thats the crack
be firm with her and let her know its written in stone
she sleeps in the crate, don't have her in and out
she'll soon catch on
how long have you had her ?
she is well and not in any pain ?
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:13 am

She was well away from the neighbours but is quite peircing!
Ruby and Daisy sleep in a crate in the hall - we did try to put her in with Daisy but she paniced.

I'm going to try today to just leave her alone a bit so she's not too dependant on people, you know walk out and leave her for short periods of time. Maybe it was just too much for her, a good walk will tire her out as well.

Right then, I have a plan! Be firm!

Thank you for calming me down!
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:18 am

I would also pop her in the crate during the day with a kong full of tasty food ie cream cheese and some of her kibble that is then frozen, make sure its nice and cosy for her with blankets to cwtch in etc. and leave her on her own sometime during the day, group hug
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:24 am

The problem with the crate is that she panics, she was it their last night with a nylabone (I don't think she knows what that is yet) and some dried fish skins that every dog I know goes mad for, ignored it all and yowled!
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:25 am

good idea allie
don't put her in with another dog put her cage next to daisys
im sure the'll be some good advice and tips for you
on here shortly
good luck hun x group hug
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:27 am

Hi Honey

Just give it time honey - as we dont know how she associates the crate yet - you never know if its been used a punishment in the past or has she ever been in one - I know its heartbreaking when they cry too xx

I would place the water bowl and feed Florence in the crate and practice asking her to go in - tempt her from the other ide with ham or chicken - then lots of praise when she goes in -

leave the crate door open 24/7 and place her toys in there - she will soon learn the crate is her bedroom xxx

You could even give her a kong with peanut butter in it and when she looks settled close the door for say 5 mins then open it xxx
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:28 am

put the cage in the room you live in
make it as normal as you can
give her treats in it
put her fav toys in it
leave the door open so she can go in and out at will
she will get used to it
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:30 am

Ohhhh Linda we wrote the same things 1 min apart lol xx
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:33 am

i know.... im endless at typing
dont do as much of it as some peeps lol!

was it great minds think alike
or fools seldom differ ?

sorry getcarter threadhijacked
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 9:40 am

Today try putting her in the crate and going into another room for say 2 minutes and then coming back and letting her out and making a fuss of her. Try this a few times and she how you get on. When you let them out of the crates let her out last no matter if she is making a fuss, so she knows she is in line and you get to her eventually.

Don't let her share a crate with one of the others, that is their chill out place and should stay that way, you may upset their balance especially if she is not settling and moaning.

At night if you get into a routine of saying to them all something like wee and bed and they all go out for final wee, have a biscuit perhaps and then go in their crates for sleep. Again when putting them away put her away last.

It is very difficult when you have neighbours and need to stop the howling or whinging, but any attention that she gets be it being told to be quiet or being let out when she cries is attention and you will not break her very easily if you give her the attention. So try the build up slowly througout the day today so she knows it is not a permenant thing and she does get let out again.

Also if she has a toy and kong or blanket of her own now make sure that goes in with her. Always take her collar off when you put her in the crate so she knows it is you goingn out or to bed time.

Let us know how you get on and if you get on with your neighbours, tell them what you are trying to do and ask if they can give you some slack for a couple of days.

Good luck with it all - you will get there.

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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 9:45 am

Some great advice above from everyone. Good luck, I am sure you will crack it with her.

If you give her plenty of excercise today that should also help x

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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 10:06 am

agreed some fab advice im sure she will soon settle into a routine its all new but the main thing is start as you mean to go on
have you got an old t shirt or jumper ( sorry if i missed this in previous post ) if you have wear it all day then when you put her to bed give it to her to lie on it will be warm and smell of you xx
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 12:44 pm

Just been out for a walk with them, they managed to pull me over (in my defence it was very muddy and slippery). They are all asleep at the mo.

I am starting to think I have made a mistake though. the reason we were looking at Ice was that she was 9-10 yrs old and a calm girl, somehow we got carried away and ended up with a dog that is not much more than a puppy....George my eldest dog is not a happy camper and is telling them so.
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 12:52 pm

At least you are fostering and have not adopted. There is no shame if it does not work out for you and you can carry on looking or fostering until the right dog comes along.
Flo will have had some respite from kennels for a while too.

We are all here for support and advice and many of our members have fostered so I am sure they may have been in the same position as you at one time or another

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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 12:56 pm

Oh thank you so much, I was expecting 'we told you so!'

I will still look around for an older dog. It's a shame because she is such a friendly little thing - still farts a lot but still! Will have to take to some photos to email to the kennels.
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 12:58 pm

its just trile n error im still having problems well sort of with bonie she mains like hell wen i shut her in her crate but were slowly grering there in jner nexed to crt train denzel so ti new epxerince fo me to i fouind tjt couddly toy helps i obuiht mr ted for thr ous shop ginT TEDY BEAR Ssghe lioves him aslo folowed the advice of pyuong dresing gonw in she now asictes as her space and wil nie ig into slppe by herself which is good thr tohers wil show ehr what to dojuts perisver with it have word wih the nigbours and say your sory for l th rCKET BUT vna otyu just give us some slack fir coupke of days stil i get this undec conrol with her good luck hope it soon pases no what slep devicln cn DO
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 1:45 pm

No one on here is going to say I told you so - not when we have the big stick in the cupboard anyway.

It takes a bit of a while for a dog to settle, quiet dogs become monsters and monsters calm down not always but things are not always what they seem.

If it does not work out there is no shame in it. As Jo has said she will have had a lovely weekend out and about and mixing with yours, some dogs only ever get respite breaks for the weekend.

You just have to know your needs and those of your existing dogs and if it is not working out tell the rescue and continue your search, there is someone out there for you.

Good luck with Flo tonight hope she settles a bit better.

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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 2:08 pm

I hope tonight goes better for you and good on you for fostering



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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 2:16 pm

Can't add to great advice given already but I do hope things go a little better tonight for you all. spinner smile
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 2:24 pm

Gosh honey as Sandi says - why would we say I told you so -

LKife and having poochies is one big learning curve - and forums should help one another - no one is perfect and knows everything - this is why I love this forum cos people do genuinely want to help and support one another xx

Hope tonight is a little better for you all x
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 7:31 pm

I've put her in the crate today for a couple of minutes each time but she does really try to give it a wide berth normally.

Took them for a walk this afternoon and it seemed to go a bit better.

My OH will stay down here tonight with her to keep her company.

Thanks everyone for all of your kind words.
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PostSubject: Re: Leaving at night   Sun 20 Feb 2011, 8:30 pm

Just a word of warning if you stay with her she will want it all the time, you are better off packing yourselves off to bed like you normally would and not changing your routine.

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